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Post by Fletch on Apr 20, 2009 1:37:38 GMT -8
For sometime now I've had this urge to build a '37 Chevy Pick-up. Of course the only thing available is the Orange Blossom Special pulling truck.  Hosted on FotkiA month or so ago I posted a "Want Ad" on the Scale Auto Builders Ass'n forum. Low and behold 2 of the members answered saying they had the kit. I traded for one of them and bought the second. When I got them, I had the major part of 3 complete kits. When I contacted the guy who I got the box with the extra parts he was like "Yeah, I know, I figured that seeing you plan to build a correctly scaled hot rod you'd need the extra parts." Sometimes all you can say is Thank You. Lord. So, it's feast or famine with this kit, now it's feast time. Using the 2 part article from SAE written by Tim Boyd starting in Oct 1992 and concluding in Dec 1999 (and I thought I took a long time on builds) and the article from July 1992's Car Modeler by Jens Lehmann-Scholtka as the basis of the build I'm hoping to build a reasonably accurate '37 Hot Rod pick-up. The fact that I was lucky enough to end up with 3 cabs will make life easier as the cab needs to be widened 40mm from side to side. It also needs to be lengthened 15mm in the door area. I can pretend it is chopped 2.5" or add the 25mm to the roof height. The top line of the windshield and the doors need to be corrected as well. Things are considerable easier now then when Tim and Jens wrote their articles as we have the '41 Chevy Pick-up to use for the chassis. But, you can't build a true late '50s Hot Rod Pick-up with anything less then a 348/409 with a tri-power manifold. So, stay tuned and we'll see how well this adventure turns out. |
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Post by sdrodder on Apr 20, 2009 16:19:10 GMT -8
This is just perfect you know why?  I have always wanted to do that too ;D ;D cept i never wanna spend 80 bucks for a kit on ebay. Guess i will have to keep searching for a parts kit or a reasonably gutted one or if i am up to a challenge convert the revell 41 truck to it. I dont think it would be that hard i mean how hard could it be  (yes i am well aware of the fact that it could be harder then thought). ok now that i am done rambling ;D Fletch that truck will be soo awsome. I mean just by the sounds of it a 37 chevy pickup powered by a 348(i would love it if you used a 409 from the amt bel air kit as it has a sc.o.t blowr with sidedrafts). I mean i can see it beating my 40 ford gasser(guess i need to fire my driver then lol ;D ) Nice i really cant wait to see pcitures. You got me hooked on this build lol. |
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Post by Fletch on Apr 20, 2009 17:18:07 GMT -8
Florian, I currently have 3 cabs, I'm getting another from one on the guys on TRaK. If you're interested I can redirect a couple of the cabs your way. It never hurts to spread the feast around. Let me know. I'm going to try and convert 1 to stock size using Evergreen to fill the voids. If that works there is a rat rod style pickup in this months Rebel Rods that is pretty cool. I figure we should be able to use the Revell '41 Chevy Pick for the rest of the conversion. Let me know if you're interested.
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Post by sdrodder on Apr 20, 2009 20:28:03 GMT -8
hey fletch i am very interested in that but only if you dont object. I would gladly trade ya something. I have a few of those 41 chevy parts trucks. I still gots all the bodys and all so i could practicly use them for this build. Also if ya needed parts i could hook ya up with some.
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Post by Fletch on Apr 21, 2009 0:20:28 GMT -8
Florian, hey I've been fortunate enough to not to have to lay out a single penny for any of the OBS kits I've gotten. I've either traded using kits and resin bodies that I bought when you were like 2. So, like I said it's feast time with this kit at the moment so why not spread the feast amongst brotheren. Besides I got to looking at 1:1 '37 Chevy pickups this evening and I think short of the grille and front fenders all the rest can be built using the '41 Chevy Pick-up. The cab on the OBS is so hosed I'm not sure you could ever make it look even 90% correct. The biggest thing I see using the '41 cab is that the '41 uses a 2 piece windshield where the '37 is a single piece of glass. So the '41 is peaked in the center where the '37 is flat. The same thing applies to the cowl in front of the windshield as well. But that may be a byproduct of the OBS conversion as the '37 coupes cowl is peaked like the '41. The upper body reveal line would need to be added using half-round evergreen, not what I would consider a major undertaking. When you get a chance PM me your address and I'll get a couple of these cabs headed your way, and you can see if I've lost my mind or not. Here's a link to the '37 pickup album on Fotki: public.fotki.com/dcfletcher/automotive/pick-ups/37chevypickup/God Bless |
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Post by sdrodder on Apr 21, 2009 15:56:57 GMT -8
pm sent
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Post by demonhunterfan on Apr 29, 2009 8:50:26 GMT -8
Hey Dave, just scoped some of yer pics in yer 37 Chevy fotki album, and saw that really cool drawing of the '37s with all the dimensions  I was thinkin of scratchin' a '36 or '38 Chevy and was lookin for just those sorta drawings with the different views and dimensions, but no luck. Can you share where ya got the one you got posted up? Later and God bless  |
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Post by Fletch on Apr 29, 2009 9:39:07 GMT -8
John, I ask on the HAMB forum if any body had any information on the dimensions of the '37 pickup. One of the guy sent me the drawing and another sent the link to the website that has the dimensional drawings for about 3 + decades. Here's the link: chevy.oldcarmanualproject.com/chevyresto/index.htm |
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Post by demonhunterfan on Apr 29, 2009 17:09:02 GMT -8
Thanks for the link Dave. I'll check it out. Later and God bless |
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Post by sdrodder on Apr 29, 2009 18:44:52 GMT -8
hey john. If you would like to replicate a 36 chevy pickup(different from the 37) send me a pm. Me dads gots a 36 chevy truck(well its now scatered accros the yard   ) but i gots some pics of it before we tore it apart. If thats gonnas help lets me kno. I cant wait to see more of your project dave.  |
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Post by Kit Karson on Apr 30, 2009 0:23:34 GMT -8
OK! I've listened to this conversation just about long enough! And, with all that has been said, I have yet to see any action...
A picture is worth about a thousand words and I figure with all the talkin' that's been goin' on about the subject, there ought to be at least one picture of someone's start on one of these very beautiful trucks!!
The mid '30 Chevys have always had a warm spot in my heart, and... I too had been chasing parts to build a bit of a basic street rod version out of the Orange Blossom Special. But, that's another story for yet another time.
Back to the subject at hand…
Well?!.
Show Me the Money!... ok, progress on someone's build!!! At least a sneak peak??? KK
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Post by demonhunterfan on Apr 30, 2009 1:13:20 GMT -8
OK! I've listened to this conversation just about long enough! And, with all that has been said, I have yet to see any action... A picture is worth about a thousand words and I figure with all the talkin' that's been goin' on about the subject, there ought to be at least one picture of someone's start on one of these very beautiful trucks!! The mid '30 Chevys have always had a warm spot in my heart, and... I too had been chasing parts to build a bit of a basic street rod version out of the Orange Blossom Special. But, that's another story for yet another time. Back to the subject at hand… Well?!. Show Me the Money!... ok, progress on someone's build!!! At least a sneak peak??? KK ;D ;D ;D Good one Wes! but just for your info, I aint planning on scratchin' a 30something truck (at least not right now!) I was thinking more of a 36 or 38 coupe or sedan taildragger, etc. Quite a challenge you've taken on with this Dave, but I'm sure we'll be seeing some progress soon. What impressed me with your work from the start was the thoroughness of it, back when you did that 32 Vicky, making the side panels correct. So getting OBS back into a street machine is gonna take some time. Lookin forward to this. Later and God bless |
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Post by Fletch on Apr 30, 2009 15:15:09 GMT -8
As I get further into the research for this project the more I find my mindset leaning toward the idea that the kindest thing you can do with the Orange Blossom Special is build it as the Orange Blossom Special. Even having 3 or 4 cabs would require so many cuts and splices that I'm not sure it would be worth the effort. This is the dimensional drawing John was talking about. From these measurements the Cab from the OBS is totally hosed. There is no scale to any of the OBS dimensions, I'm not sure what they were doing when either the original was built or perhaps AMT took some liberties they shouldn't. Either way to bring the cab back to correct 1/25th scale would be a significant amount of work.  In order to get the dimensions right for a mid '30s Chevy pickup we'd be a whole lot better off starting with the Revell '41 Chevy pickup. There are several reasons for this, 1) in we get chassis with the correct wheel base. 2) we get a pickup bed that is dimensionally correct. 3) we get a cab that is a whole lot closer to being correct then the one in the OBS, we just need to convert the 2 piece wind shield over to a single piece of glass and correct the cowl and add the upper reveal on the body. If you were to us the newer version of the '41 you also get the parts and pieces to lower it. The one thing that the '41 won't supply us is the '37s front fenders and grille. We can either fall back on the OBS parts or use the fender, grille and hood from the AMT '37 Chevy coupe.  That's where I'm at in this conversion, granted there is satisfaction in making something that is SO WRONG look correct. But there is also the reality of there is a better way to go about this. So, the idea at this point in time is to proceed with the build using the '41 and the fenders/grille from the OBS and the clear hood from the AMT coupe. I'll get some photos up in the next few days. Funny, the wheels on this '37 just happen to resemble those from the '37 Ford pickup and panel delivery. |
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Post by sdrodder on Apr 30, 2009 17:14:51 GMT -8
dave if you want i have about 5 sets of 37 chevy coupe front fenders 7 grills from stock to kustom plus i got a couple of those hoods. If ya want a set of it i would part with them. I wouldnt want anything for them either(if i need to get enough bodies for all those part i would have about 10 37 chevy coupes lol)
Let me know as i wanna see some work on it lol.
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Post by Fletch on Apr 30, 2009 18:58:05 GMT -8
Flo, check your PM, got a trade in mind for you if you're interested.
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(yes i am well aware of the fact that it could be harder then thought).
I was thinkin of scratchin' a '36 or '38 Chevy and was lookin for just those sorta drawings with the different views and dimensions, but no luck. Can you share where ya got the one you got posted up?
) but i gots some pics of it before we tore it apart. If thats gonnas help lets me kno.
